Henry Crispe [55620]
Joan Dyer [55621]
Johannes (John) I Crispe [55618]
(Abt 1450-)

 

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Joan Sevenoaks [55619]

Johannes (John) I Crispe [55618]

  • Born: Abt 1450, Canterbury, Kent, England, Great Britain
  • Marriage: Joan Sevenoaks [55619] in 1475 in probably Kingston, Kent, England, Great Britain
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http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~chute/gp680.htm#head7


Charles Chute and Avicia (unconfirmed) Crispe:

A posting on Rootsweb's Medieval genealogy board in October of 2004 is below; the source for the information in this post is S.T. Bindoff's sketch of Philip Chute in History of Parliament: House of Commons, 1509-1558. However, the 1619 Visitation of Kent does not reflect the marriage of any daughters of John and Avice (Denne) Crispe to anyone in the Chute (or variants) family.
That Charles married into the Crispe Family is less and less in doubt, given the interfamilial connections that appear in other documents. The question is: which Crispe daughter did he marry? At the moment, there appear to be records of only two daughter of John and Avice Denne Crispe: Margaret, the elder of the two, and Avicia. Margaret is on record as having at least two known husbands; Avicia, so far, has not been recorded as having had any. This could also mean that she died young and never married, and Margaret in fact married three times, one husband being Charles Chute. Placing Avicia in the role of Charles Chute's wife is merely a "hazardous best guess" at the moment and is unconfirmed. (There might also be a third daughter in addition to Margaret and Avicia).
That said, aside from the interesting connection between the families that appear in the lawsuit mentioned in this posting, there is also a nominal familial relationship between this branch of the Chutes and the Crispe family. There are records of a Henry Crispe marrying Maria Colpeper, daughter of Anthony Colpeper and Anna Martin. Anthony Colpeper was the son of Alexander Colpeper and Maria Dacre. Henry Crispe's father in this record was not identified.
This information needs to be confirmed and verified further; this should be considered only a starting point for subsequent research.
From: [email protected] (John Brandon)
Subject: Re: Parchment pedigree of Lionel Chute, immigrant to Ipswich, Mass.
Date: 29 Oct 2004 20:15:59 -0700
Subject: CHUTE (CHOWTE), Philip (by 1506-67), of Horne Place, Appledore, Kent.
Archiver > GEN-MEDIEVAL > 2004-10 > 1099106159
b. by 1506, s. of Charles Chute of (? Malling), Kent by a da. of John Crispe* of Birchington, Isle of Thanet, m. (1) by 1537, Joan, da. of Thomas Ensing of Winchelsea, Suss., wid. of Peter Master (d. 1526/32), 2s. 1 da.; (2) Elizabeth, da. of one Girling of Wrentham, Suff., 1 s.; (3) by Sept. 1546, Margaret (d. 28 Sept. 1555), da. of Sir Alexander Culpeper of Bedgebury, Kent, 5s. 1da."
The information above is found in the sketch of Philip Chute, a Member of Parliament, in History of Parliament: House of Commons, 1509-1558. The * indicates that his father-in-law, John Crispe of Birchington, was also a Member of Parliament. Unfortunately, John Crispe's service occurred before 1509, so he's not included in this volume. However, a good clue to his identity is found in the sketch of M.P. Henry Crispe (d. 1575), who was "son of John Crispe* of Birchington by Avice, da. and h. of Thomas Denne of Kingston, Kent." I would guess that John and Avice (Denne) Crispe were the maternal grandparents of Philip Chute and his brother Anthony.
Interestingly, _RD600_, p. 469, gives a line of royal descent for this John Crispe:
1. David I, King of Scotland, d. 1153 = Matilda of Northumberland, widow of Simon de St. Liz, SETH

2. Henry of Scotland, Earl of Huntingdon = Ada de Warenne, a great-granddaughter of Henry I, King of France, d. 1060, and Anne of Kiev, see AR7, lines 89, 50, 53

3. David of Scotland, Earl of Huntingdon (brother of Malcolm IV and William the Lion, Kings of Scotland) = Maude de Meschines, daughter of Hugh Kevelioc, 3rd Earl of Chester, SETH, and Bertrade de Montfort

4. Ada of Scotland = Sir Henry Hastings

5. Hilaria Hastings = Sir William Harcourt

6. Sir Richard Harcourt = Margaret Beke

7. Sir John Harcourt = Ellen la Zouche

8. Matilda Harcourt = Henry Crispe

9. John Crispe = Anne Phillips (or Fettiplace)

10. Henry Crispe = Joan Dyer

11. John Crispe = Joan Sevenoaks

12. John Crispe = Agnes Queke

13. John Crispe = Avice Denne

14. Margaret Crispe = (1) John Crayford; (2) John Blechynden

15. (by 1) Edward Crayford = Mary Atsea

and so forth ...
[Edward Crayford and his wife Mary were encountered in the lawsuit, mentioned above, involving Arthur and Philip Chute.]


Record Type: Chute Family History/Book
Title: A Genealogy and History of the Chute Family in America: With Some Account of the Family in Great Britain and Ireland, with an Account of Forty Allied Families Gathered from the Most Authentic Sources
Author: William Edward Chute
Published: Salem, Massachusetts, 1894
Comments: Copy originally owned by George Maynard Chute, nephew of William Edward Chute with his signature on the flyleaf; handwritten notes in margins; passed to George Maynard Chute, Jr. who published an updated addendum to this work in 1968; passed to George Maynard Chute, III; passed to Jacqueline Irene Chute.
Location: Privately held

Record Type: Family Genealogical Database
Title: Allen Family Genealogy Database
Author/Researcher: James Edward Allen, Bill Allen
Entries: 26861
Updated: 2005-03-23 03:07:12 UTC (Wed)
Individual ID: I11307 Name: EDWARD CRAFFORD
Cited Sources: (1) Historical Southern Families, Boddie, Vol. I, p. 337, Vol. VI, p. 247; (2) Pedigrees of Some of the Emperor Charlemagne's Descendents. J. Orton Buck & Timothy Field Beard. Ch. LXXXV, p. 308-311 (3) THREE HUNDRED EIGHTEEN YEARS IN AMERICA, by Stennis L.J. Boykin
URL: <http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=billallen47&id=I11307>
This Source Has Been Cited for: Edward Crayford or Crafford and Mary Sea (or Atsea) Crayford or Crafford.
GROUP NO: Chute Family Records/GP1155-7

Record Type: Family Genealogical Database
Title: All of my Ancestors
Author/Researcher: Kyle Clark
Entries: 27239
Updated: 2006-01-07 03:41:10 UTC (Sat)
Individual ID: I13891 Name: John Crispe
Cited Sources: None
URL: <http://awt.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=kyleyclark&id=I13891>
This Source Has Been Cited for: John Crispe <gp680.htm> and Avice Denne Crispe.
GROUP NO: Chute Family Records/GP680-4

Record Type: Book
Title: The Royal Descents of 600 Immigrants to the American Colonies or the United States
Author: Gary Boyd Roberts
Publisher: Genealogical Publishing Company
Location: Baltimore, Maryland
Date: 2004
This Source Has Been Cited for: John Crispe and Avice Denne Crispe.
GROUP NO: Chute Family Records/GP680-4

Record Type: E-Mail
Subject: Crispe of Birchington, Thanet: Monumental Brasses at Birchington, Thanet (west of Margate)
Author: Francis Chute
Recipient: Lionel Chute, Steve Chute, Jacqueline Chute
Date: MAR 2006
Text: "At Birchington (west of Margate) are monumental brasses to: (1) Alys, wife of John Crispe, 1518; (2) Margaret Cryspe, 1528; (3) Margaret Cryppys, 1533; (4) John Crysp and his wife Agnes, 1535. At Wrotham, a monumental brass to Elizabeth Crispe, 1615."
This Source Has Been Cited for: John Crispe and Avice (Alys) Denne Crispe and family.
GROUP NO: Chute Family Records/GP680-4

Record Type: E-Mail
Subject: Henry Crispe, M.P.
Author: Francis Chute
Recipient: Lionel Chute, Steve Chute, Jacqueline Chute
Date: MAR 2006
Text: "John Crispe was father of Charles Chute, junior's wife. Sir Henry Crispe, M.P. [son of John Crispe] was Philip Chute's uncle [source: Bindoff], i.e., presumably his mother's brother. Sir Henry Crispe (or Cripse), c. 1505-1575, second son of John Crispe of Birchington and Avice (nee Denne) was in the 1544 Boulogne campaign. Sir Thomas Cheney got him the Winchelsea seat: M.P. for Dover, 1533; for Winchelsea 1553; for Canterbury, 1558; Sheriff of Kent 1546-7. His son Nicholas Crispe (~1530-1564), M.P., Sandwich 1554, 1558, married (1) Frances, daughter of Sir Thomas Cheney, (2) Mary, daughter of Christopher Glemham of Glemham, Suffolk. Sheriff of Kent 1559/60. Predeceased his father. Both Henry and Nicholas were friends of Sir Thomas Cheney and were appointed executors of his Will."
This Source Has Been Cited for: John Crispe and Avice (Alys) Denne Crispe and family.
GROUP NO: Chute Family Records/GP680-4

Record Type: E-Mail
Subject: Sir Thomas Cheney: Cheneys of Shurland
Author: Francis Chute
Recipient: Lionel Chute, Steve Chute, Jacqueline Chute
Date: MAR 2006
Text: "Thomas (b. 1485) was known for "the proud and overbearing manner of his youth" (which he later curbed so as to become a successful diplomat and keep in favor with all 5 Tudor monarchs.) He had an elder half-brother Francis, but was free of parental restraint in his youth, because his father had died 1487 when Thomas was 2, and then their uncle John, Lord Cheney of Shurland (the one who fought at Bosworth) died in 1496 when Thomas was 11. So, one may ask, did Charles Chute go to Shurland after 1500, at the request of Suffolk Cheneys, and help teach Thomas to curb his natrual temper so as to survive the vicissitudes of the Tudor Court? (And if so - which Charles Chute, father or son?)
Sir Thomas Cheney's memorial tomb is at Minster Abbey Church, Sheppey (picture on the internet).
Cheneys were linked by marriage inter alia ["among other things"] to families of: (1) Sandys: husband of Thomas Cheney's aunt Sir William Sandys of the Vyne; (2) Chideake: wife of Lord Cheney, Thomas Cheney's uncle - Margaret, daughter of Sir John Chideake by Kath. Lumley; (3) Kempe: husband of Thomas Cheney's daughter Catherine - Sir Thomas Kempe of Wye; (4) Sir John Perrot: husband of Thomas Cheney's daughter Anne; (5) Crispe: husband of Thomas Cheney's daughter Frances - Nicholas, son of Sir Henry Crispe.
This Source Has Been Cited for: John Crispe and Avice (Alys) Denne Crispe and family.
GROUP NO: Chute Family Records/ALLIED:Cheney



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Johannes married Joan Sevenoaks [55619] [MRIN: 551614599] in 1475 in probably Kingston, Kent, England, Great Britain. (Joan Sevenoaks [55619] was born in 1486 in Birchington, Isle of Thanet, Kent, England, Great Britain.)




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