Henry Say [55631]

  General Notes:

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Henry Say, See, Atsea or Sea


Henry Say, See, Sea or Atsea and daughters Millicent, Mary and Elizabeth:

Most family genealogical records with the Atsea family as an ancestor have recorded daughter Mary, who married Edward Crafford or Crayford, but in fact Henry had three daughters, as indicated in the following land sale record:
From Francis Chute, via e-mail,
"Bartletts alias Thoneton [on the Isle of Thanet in Kent] is a farm about a half mile westaward from Shoart which was likewise held of the manor of Downe Barton in socage, by fealty and rent. It was anciently the patrimony of the Chiches, and then of the Garlands by which name it passed by sale to Robert Sea, to whom and to Henry his son it was assured in fee, which latter on his father's death became wholly seized of it; he died without male issue, and his three daughters Millicent, Elizabeth and Mary became his co-heirs and entitled to it in coparcenary. Jerom Brett and Millicent above mentioned, his wife, by indenture, anno 5 Elizabeth, sold thier third part to William Norwood of Nash, as did Arthur Chute and Elizabeth, above mentioned, his wife, their third part, two years later".
Source: Hasted, Edward, The History and Topographical Survey of the County of Kent. 1788-99, Volume IV, page 300.
And regarding the same piece of property (note that the name of Millicent's husband has changed from Jerome Brett to William Blackenden), there is a "lawsuit" involving both Arthur and his uncle Philip Chute, although this should not be interpreted as a form of hostility. Francis Chute points out that one method of legalizing property exchanges was to stage a friendly lawsuit, to obtain a legal court ruling on the sale. As this "lawsuit" does not appear to have any negative impact on Arthur's relationship with his uncle - he later appears in Philip's will - this appears to be one of those "friendly" or "staged" lawsuits:
"William BLACKENDEN, Millicent his wife, Edward CRAYFORD, Mary his wife, Arthur CHOWTE and Elizabeth his wife v. Philip CHOWTE, esquire. Detention of deeds relating to the manor of Thornton _alias_ Bartletts (in St. Nicholas at Wade), Northolme, North Ryckett, and Madford (in Hemyock), and a messuage and lands in the manor of Mekynbroke (in Chislett, Herne and Hoath) and Madford, late of Henry Lee [this is meant to be "See"], esquire, deceased, father of the female complainant (sic)."
Source: Chancery Records, Kent, Somerset, Devon. Date: 1556-1558. Volume: 10. Page: 132, Bundle: 1405

1530 - Will of Rychard Crompton, Mercer of London - December 2, 1530
"William Crompton of London, mercer, brother and executor of Richard Crompton, mercer. v. Henry See, gentleman, husband of Elizabeth, executrix and late the wife of the said Richard: Actions of debt on orphanage bonds on behalf of the children of the said Richard, part of whose estate has been withheld by defendant."
Source: Chancery Records, London, 1386-1558.


Record Type: Chute Family History/Book
Title: A Genealogy and History of the Chute Family in America: With Some Account of the Family in Great Britain and Ireland, with an Account of Forty Allied Families Gathered from the Most Authentic Sources
Author: William Edward Chute
Published: Salem, Massachusetts, 1894
Comments: Copy originally owned by George Maynard Chute, nephew of William Edward Chute with his signature on the flyleaf; handwritten notes in margins; passed to George Maynard Chute, Jr. who published an updated addendum to this work in 1968; passed to George Maynard Chute, III; passed to Jacqueline Irene Chute.
Location: Privately held

Record Type: Visitation
Title: The Visitation of London, Anno Domini 1633,1634 and 1635
Made by: Sr. Henry St. George, Kt; Sr. Henry St. George, Kt.
Volume: 1
Page: 163
Editors: Joseph Jackson Howard, LL.D., F.S.A; Joseph Lemuel Chester, LL.D.
Published: London, 1880
This Source Has Been Cited for: Anthony Chute and (Unknown) Gyrlinge Chute, through four generations.
GROUP NO: Chute Family Records/GP15-0

Record Type: Family Genealogical Database
Title: Bluemel Family History
Author/Researcher: Daniel Bluemel
Entries: 3886
Updated: Sat Dec 27 12:41:02 2003
Individual ID: I910 Name: Mary Atsea
URL: <http://awtc.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=danielbluemel&id=I910>
This Source Has Been Cited for: Henry Say, See, Sea or Atsea and daughters Mary Atsea and Elizabeth Henry Say, See, Sea or Atsea Chute.
GROUP NO: Chute Family Records/GP1155-1

Record Type: Book
Title: The History and Topographical Survey of the County of Kent
Author: Edward Hasted
Dates: 1788-99 (multiple volumes)
Volume: IV
Page: 300
This Source Has Been Cited for: Henry Say, See, Sea or Atsea and three daughters.
GROUP NO: Chute Family Records/GP1155



Record Type: Chancery Records
Location(s): Kent, Somerset, Devon
Dates: 1556-1558
Volume: 10
Page: 132
Bundle: 1405
Repository: National Archives, Great Britain
This Source Has Been Cited for: Henry Say, See, Sea or Atsea and three daughters.
GROUP NO: Chute Family Records/GP1155-1

Record Type: Chancery Records
Location(s): London, Middlesex, Great Britain
Dates: 1386-1558
Volume: 6
Page: 40
Entry: William Crompton, Richard Crompton, Henry Sea
Bundle: 618
Repository: National Archives, Great Britain
This Source Has Been Cited for: Henry Say, See, Sea or Atsea and three daughters.
GROUP NO: Chute Family Records/GP1155-1

  Noted events in his life were:

• Document: London, Chancery document, SEE NOTES, 1529-1532. . Henry Say, See, Sea or Atsea and daughters Millicent, Mary and Elizabeth:

Most family genealogical records with the Atsea family as an ancestor have recorded daughter Mary, who married Edward Crafford or Crayford, but in fact Henry had three daughters, as indicated in the following land sale record:
From Francis Chute, via e-mail,
"Bartletts alias Thoneton [on the Isle of Thanet in Kent] is a farm about a half mile westaward from Shoart which was likewise held of the manor of Downe Barton in socage, by fealty and rent. It was anciently the patrimony of the Chiches, and then of the Garlands by which name it passed by sale to Robert Sea, to whom and to Henry his son it was assured in fee, which latter on his father's death became wholly seized of it; he died without male issue, and his three daughters Millicent, Elizabeth and Mary became his co-heirs and entitled to it in coparcenary. Jerom Brett and Millicent above mentioned, his wife, by indenture, anno 5 Elizabeth, sold thier third part to William Norwood of Nash, as did Arthur Chute and Elizabeth, above mentioned, his wife, their third part, two years later".
Source: Hasted, Edward, The History and Topographical Survey of the County of Kent. 1788-99, Volume IV, page 300.
And regarding the same piece of property (note that the name of Millicent's husband has changed from Jerome Brett to William Blackenden), there is a "lawsuit" involving both Arthur and his uncle Philip Chute, although this should not be interpreted as a form of hostility. Francis Chute points out that one method of legalizing property exchanges was to stage a friendly lawsuit, to obtain a legal court ruling on the sale. As this "lawsuit" does not appear to have any negative impact on Arthur's relationship with his uncle - he later appears in Philip's will - this appears to be one of those "friendly" or "staged" lawsuits:
"William BLACKENDEN, Millicent his wife, Edward CRAYFORD, Mary his wife, Arthur CHOWTE and Elizabeth his wife v. Philip CHOWTE, esquire. Detention of deeds relating to the manor of Thornton _alias_ Bartletts (in St. Nicholas at Wade), Northolme, North Ryckett, and Madford (in Hemyock), and a messuage and lands in the manor of Mekynbroke (in Chislett, Herne and Hoath) and Madford, late of Henry Lee [this is meant to be "See"], esquire, deceased, father of the female complainant (sic)."
Source: Chancery Records, Kent, Somerset, Devon. Date: 1556-1558. Volume: 10. Page: 132, Bundle: 1405

1530 - Will of Rychard Crompton, Mercer of London - December 2, 1530
"William Crompton of London, mercer, brother and executor of Richard Crompton, mercer. v. Henry See, gentleman, husband of Elizabeth, executrix and late the wife of the said Richard: Actions of debt on orphanage bonds on behalf of the children of the said Richard, part of whose estate has been withheld by defendant."
Source: Chancery Records, London, 1386-1558.

Henry married Elizabeth Girling [55840] [MRIN: 551614604] about 1531 in London, Middlesex, England, Great Britain.