Frederick William Duncombe [70] ^39,41

   FamilySearch ID: L44Q-D2H.

  General Notes:

Summit View is on the South Hill above Puyallup, Washington
Carrie Harris said that Duncomde is a Duch name, but they were English Canadian. Great Grandpa Duncombe lived in Ontario, Canada; Mich.; Calif.; Idaho; Washington. He planted many of the Orange orchards around Las Angeles and Great Uncle Lorne homsteaded above LA in the hills. then went in to the army and after release from the army, homesteaded in Shelton Washin gton. He later moved to Woodland to be with Grandpa and then when Grandpa moved in with Grandma Bandy (at Summit View) so did Uncle Lorne.

Dear Janice

I believe that you are a great-Granddaughter of Fredrick William Duncombe and Julia Mabee: is that correct? He was also my Great-Grandfather and a very good and well beloved man. If you are doing genealogy work, I think you know that Julia Mabee came from a very distinguished family whose founder in the USA was Isaack Allerton, that with his wife and family came over on the Mayflower. Then descended down through the American branch of the Churchill family. If you need them, I have records of these decedents and some of their ancestors back in England. If you need these records you are welcome to them. I have the original of Grandpa Duncombe's marriage licence. The one that hung on their wall. I took it out of the frame they had it in and put it in acid free plastic to preserve it. It is a keepsake that would be hard to give up, but you may have a copy of it if you wish.

I haven't been able to find out much about Grandpa Duncombe's family except that he came from Canada between The date of their Marriage 14 Dec 18 87 and the birth of their first child 12 Mar 1889. The exact date is not certain, as I remember it he told me he came shortly after their marriage in Dec 1887. That means they would have probably move to the USA in 1988 as they were in Mich. when their first child was born in March 1889.

There is a story about him you may not know. When he was a boy, his fathers farm was right across the road from the farm of the parents of Aimee Semple McPherson Who was born in Salford, Ontario, Canada in 1890 and was the founder of the Four Square Church, so he knew the family. One day he save her life and then regretted it all his adult life, as he felt so strong that the Four Square Church was an abomination and had he not saved her life it never would have been. Thus he felt like he had interfered with the will of God. I think you know he was a very Spiritual man. This must have happened when they were in Salford for the birth of William and Wilamena in 1894. As he was in Michigan when she was born and untl 1804 as far as we know. Aimee would have been 4 at that time.

Grandpa Duncombe told me that the way he saved her life was as follows:

She was setting in a wagon pulled by a team of horses. The team bolted a nd started running toward a cliff or the lip of a very deep Canion with a river at the bottom, that if they went over would have surely killed her. He was nearby and jumped between the horses and grabbing the rains near the bit, one in each hand, dragged between the horses, pulling them to a stop just short of the cliff.

I'm inputting the records and corrections you sent into my computer and have some questions:

1. Most of the women that are named Belle in the family spell it with a " e" on the end. Are you sure that Myrtle Bell Lowes spelled it without t he "e"?

Glenn Cook

Don wrote: You asked about Grandpa Duncombe and if anyone knew anything about him as your sources were sketchy. I don't know how much truth the re is to it, but mom told me many times that Grandpa (actually Great Grandpa) was 23rd of 27 children, more than one birth being multiples. As far as she knew, even from such a prolific family there are no male descend ants that have survived to this day and the family name has died. Grandpa Duncombe was the kindred spirit you read about but Grandma Duncombe was a hellcat of the hightest caliber! Mom said that she was always on the warpath about something and that long-suffering Grandpa would always try to calm her down with, "Now, now, Pet (his nickname for her) please calm down as everything is goind to be alright and it isn't as bad as it seems." My recollections of him around Grandma Bandy's place were the nightly Bible readings in the living room, my daily
experience of watching bug-eyed as Grandpa would go through his daily ritual of shaving with the big straight razor of his (I just knew that one day I was going to see him cut his throat!), and his morning ritual of washing his eyes in a shotglass of warm, fresh urine! It must have worked as his eyesight was pretty darn good right up until his death.

Mom said that Grandpa had cultivated a huge garden every year since he w as 8 years old and that had been his main source of livelyhood for most of his life. And I will never forget those fabulous vegetable he grew!! When he had his stroke and lost a leg in his late 80s, he was devastated that he could not tend a garden anymore and seemed to will himself to death.

Of Uncle Lorne's bachelorhood, mom said that Uncle Lorne was dating a very nice young lady that was from a different church. When he told Grandma Duncombe that he was thinking of asking her to marry him, she flew into a rage and forbid him to ever see her again as she considered the girl a heathen.

Uncle Lorne was said to have calmly told her that if he couldn't marry her, then he wouldn't marry anyone and never dated another woman for the rest o f his life.

I don't know how much of this is truth and how much was family lore, but it makes
good stories anyway.

Mom also mentioned several relatives in Canada but was never aware of any of
them having male descendents that survived to this day. By the way, my neighbor here in Texas has the last name of Duncom (different spelling).

Thank you Don for your recollections of Grandpa Duncombe I will put them in the family records. Yes Grandma Duncombe was a "Hell Cat" as you sai d. I remember only too well. I stayed clear of her, you better believe. What you remember of Lorne is also correct as far as I know. I spell Duncombe with an "e" as that is the way it is in the records I have. I have not proved that to be correct though. There are a lot of things I need to research yet, but have decided that pulling this all together and in a usable form is more important. I will do more research after.

Grandpa didn't have a stroke, but hardening of the arteries and the blood flow to his foot was cut off and got gangrene in it. So it had to be cut off. It may make you feel better if I tell you that one time he told me that his life was bad after the amputation as he had always be en so active, but latter it became the best part of his life as he found he had time for things he never had time for before. People would come and visit and he could take the time to talk to them about the Bible and such. He could listen to his programs on the radio and in general found it very pleasant.

Glenn's answer
Yes! Don, Grandpa was very nice and I loved him dearly, but when religion was involved he could be a "Hell Cat" also. He chased me around more th an once. He was a hard shell Baptist and nothing else would do. He went to the Methodist church as there was no Baptist Church around, but never let the Methodist forget that he was really a Baptist.

But, when he died, even the Catholics said if ever a man made it he did.

He wouldn't let Grandma Bandy marry Grandpa Glovers brother either. Palmer was his name and he was a good man. I think you remember he stayed wi th Mom and Dad before he died. Grandpa Duncombe just set his foot down and said "We have had enough of those Glovers" and that was it. She ended up marrying Grandpa Bandy and he was a little ruff on the family. I remember only too well.

What I need is information about his family before. And, yes they were in Canada and some still are. I sent you a copy of their Marriage Licence record from Canada. Got it from Sue Pattullo. She said that his fathers name was William G Duncombe born in England and came to Canada as a young man. His mother was Fannie Hill.

In Dec 1936 Fred and Julia were living at 410 North E St. Tacoma, Washington.

Sue Pattullo just sent me a lot of information on Grandpa and the famil y, She says he is listed in 1900 U.S. Census, Sanilac Co., Michigan, Forester Township.

Obituary of FREDERICK William Duncombe.

Deckerville....... Word has been received by
Mrs. Thorns Pattullo of the death of her brother
Fred Duncombe, 88, in Puyallup, Washington.
Funeral services were held Wednesday, Feb. 4.
Mr. Duncombe was born on February 25, 1864
in Canada and came to Sanilac County as a young
man. He married and lived on the farm now occup-
ied by Willis Clemons in Marion township. He was
an active member of East Melon Baptist Church
and Sunday School. Mr. and Mrs. Duncombe and
family left here in 1908 to make their home in Calif-
ornia, later moving to Washington.
Mrs. Duncombe passed away several years ago.
He is survived by three sons. William Duncombe,
Mercer Island Washington; John Duncombe, Tacoma,
Washington; and Loren Duncombe, Puyallup, Wash-
ington: one daughter, Mrs. May Bandy with whom he
lived: seven grandchildren; fourteen great-grandchildren
one great-great-grandchild: and his sister. Mrs. Pattullo.

Listed in the 1900 U.S. Census, Sanilac Co. Michigan. Forester Township.

Obituary-Tacoma News Trigune says 4 Feb 1953

  Research Notes:

The origins of the Duncombe name comes from the Anglo-Saxon ruled over Britain. The name Dunscombe was originally derived from a family having lived in the village of Duncombe. There is also a Duncombe in Lancashire which is in the north country too. This local name was originally derived from the Old English word dun, which means hill. The second part of the name, comb was originally derived from the Old English word cumb, which refers to a short, straight valley. Therefore Duncombe was literally a hill in a short, straight valley.

Before English spelling was standardized a few hundred years ago, spelling variations of names were common occurrence. Elements of Latin. French, and other languages became incorporated into English through the Middle Ages, and names spellings changed even among the literate. The variations of the surname Duncombe include Duncombe, Duncombe, Duncombe, Dunscomb, Duncombe, Duncumb and many more.

First found in Buckingham shire where early records show Richard de Ingen held a barony in this shire since the Domesday Book. The name evolved through many changes; Vitalis D'Ingen reigh of King Henry I, which lasted from 1216 to 1272 to Ralph Dungun who was Lord of Tingewick (Rotuli Hundredorum.) From this latter reference, the name was listed as Dunguns, Dengaines, Dungems and then gradually was changed to Duncombe, the more popular Spelling since the 16^th century.

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  Noted events in his life were:

• Occupation: Farmer, 1887, Dereham Township, Oxford County, Ontario, Canada. ⁴⁹

• Religion: Baptist, 1887, Dereham Township, Oxford County, Ontario, Canada. ⁴⁹

• Residence, 1887, Dereham Township, Oxford County, Ontario, Canada. ⁴⁹

• Census, 1900, Forester, Sanilac County, Michigan, United States of America. Frederick W Duncombe in the 1900 United States Federal Census

Source Citation
Year: 1900; Census Place: Forester, Sanilac, Michigan; Roll: 743; Page: 8A; Enumeration District: 0124; FHL microfilm: 1240743

NAME:Frederick W Duncombe
[Frederick Duncombe]
AGE:36
BIRTH DATE:Feb 1864
BIRTHPLACE:Canada
[Canada English]
HOME IN 1900:Forester, Sanilac, Michigan
RACE:White
GENDER:Male
IMMIGRATION YEAR:1888
RELATION TO HEAD OF HOUSE:Head
MARITAL STATUS:Married
SPOUSE'S NAME:Julia Duncombe
MARRIAGE YEAR:1888
YEARS MARRIED:12
FATHER'S BIRTHPLACE:England
MOTHER'S BIRTHPLACE:Canada, England
OCCUPATION:View on Image
NEIGHBORS:View others on page
HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS:
NAMEAGE
Frederick W Duncombe36
Julia Duncombe33
Ernest L Duncombe11
Fredrick S Duncombe9
Mildred May Duncombe7
William G Duncombe5
John Mckinley Duncombe8/12

• Census, 1910, Beaumont, Riverside County, California, United States of America. Frederic W Duncombe in the 1910 United States Federal Census

Source Citation
Year: 1910; Census Place: Beaumont, Riverside, California; Roll: T624_91; Page: 1B; Enumeration District: 0063; FHL microfilm: 1374104

NAME:Frederic W Duncombe
AGE IN 1910:45
BIRTH YEAR:abt 1865
BIRTHPLACE:Canada
[Canada English]
HOME IN 1910:Beaumont, Riverside, California
RACE:White
GENDER:Male
IMMIGRATION YEAR:1888
RELATION TO HEAD OF HOUSE:Head
MARITAL STATUS:Married
SPOUSE'S NAME:Julia Duncombe
FATHER'S BIRTHPLACE:England
MOTHER'S BIRTHPLACE:Pennsylvania
NEIGHBORS:View others on page
HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS:
NAMEAGE
Frederic W Duncombe45
Julia Duncombe43
Mildred M Duncombe17
George W Duncombe15
[18]
John Mck Duncombe10

• City Directory, 1917, Riverside, Riverside County, California, United States of America. Frederick W Duncombe in the U.S. City Directories, 1821-1989

Source Information
Ancestry.com. U.S. City Directories, 1821-1989 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011.

NAME:Frederick W Duncombe
GENDER:Male
RESIDENCE YEAR:1917
RESIDENCE PLACE:Riverside, California, USA
OCCUPATION:Rancher
SPOUSE:Julia Duncombe
PUBLICATION TITLE:Riverside, California, City Directory, 1917

• Census, 1920, Kettle Falls, Stevens County, Washington, United States of America. Fredrick W Duncombe in the 1920 United States Federal Census

Source Citation
Year: 1920; Census Place: Kettle Falls, Stevens, Washington; Roll: T625_1938; Page: 3A; Enumeration District: 296; Image: 473

NAME:Fredrick W Duncombe
[Fredrick W Buncomly]
AGE:58
BIRTH YEAR:abt 1862
BIRTHPLACE:Canada
HOME IN 1920:Kettle Falls, Stevens, Washington
HOUSE NUMBER:Farm
RACE:White
GENDER:Male
IMMIGRATION YEAR:1884
RELATION TO HEAD OF HOUSE:Head
MARITAL STATUS:Married
SPOUSE'S NAME:Julia M Duncombe
FATHER'S BIRTHPLACE:England
MOTHER'S BIRTHPLACE:Canada
NATIVE TONGUE:English
ABLE TO SPEAK ENGLISH:Yes
OCCUPATION:Farmer
INDUSTRY:Farm Laboratory
EMPLOYMENT FIELD:Wage or Salary
HOME OWNED OR RENTED:Rent
NATURALIZATION STATUS:Naturalized
ABLE TO READ:Yes
ABLE TO WRITE:Yes
NEIGHBORS:View others on page
HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS:
NAMEAGE
Fredrick W Duncombe58
Julia M Duncombe55
[52]
Loren F Duncombe29
[21]
Willie G Duncombe25
John M Duncombe20
May M Glover27
Milton F Glover7
Gertrude Glover6

• City Directory: 723 E 35th, 1920, Tacoma, Pierce County, Washington, United States of America. Frederick Duncombe in the U.S. City Directories, 1821-1989

Source Information
Ancestry.com. U.S. City Directories, 1821-1989 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011.

NAME:Frederick Duncombe
GENDER:Male
RESIDENCE YEAR:1920
STREET ADDRESS:723 E 35th
RESIDENCE PLACE:Tacoma, Washington, USA
OCCUPATION:Gardener
SPOUSE:Julia Duncombe
PUBLICATION TITLE:Tacoma, Washington, City Directory, 1920

• City Directory: 3561 S Gunnison, 1922, Tacoma, Pierce County, Washington, United States of America. Frederick W Duncombe in the U.S. City Directories, 1821-1989

Source Information
Ancestry.com. U.S. City Directories, 1821-1989 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011.

NAME:Frederick W Duncombe
GENDER:Male
RESIDENCE YEAR:1922
STREET ADDRESS:3561 S Gunnison
RESIDENCE PLACE:Tacoma, Washington, USA
OCCUPATION:Gard
SPOUSE:Julia Duncombe
PUBLICATION TITLE:Tacoma, Washington, City Directory, 1922

• City Directory: 1507 So G, 1929, Tacoma, Pierce County, Washington, United States of America. Fred W Duncombe in the U.S. City Directories, 1821-1989

Source Information
Ancestry.com. U.S. City Directories, 1821-1989 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011.

NAME:Fred W Duncombe
GENDER:Male
RESIDENCE YEAR:1929
STREET ADDRESS:1507 So G
RESIDENCE PLACE:Tacoma, Washington, USA
OCCUPATION:Gardener
SPOUSE:Julia Duncombe
PUBLICATION TITLE:Tacoma, Washington, City Directory, 1929

• Census, 1930, Tacoma, Pierce County, Washington, United States of America. Frederick W Duncombe in the 1930 United States Federal Census

Source Citation
Year: 1930; Census Place: Tacoma, Pierce, Washington; Roll: 2510; Page: 14B; Enumeration District: 0129; Image: 914.0; FHL microfilm: 2342244

NAME:Frederick W Duncombe
BIRTH YEAR:abt 1865
GENDER:Male
RACE:White
BIRTHPLACE:Canada
MARITAL STATUS:Married
RELATION TO HEAD OF HOUSE:Head
HOME IN 1930:Tacoma, Pierce, Washington
MAP OF HOME:View Map
STREET ADDRESS:So. G Street
WARD OF CITY:3
HOUSE NUMBER IN CITIES OR TOWNS:1507
DWELLING NUMBER:333
FAMILY NUMBER:429
HOME OWNED OR RENTED:Rented
HOME VALUE:15
RADIO SET:No
LIVES ON FARM:No
AGE AT FIRST MARRIAGE:24
ATTENDED SCHOOL:No
ABLE TO READ AND WRITE:Yes
FATHER'S BIRTHPLACE:England
MOTHER'S BIRTHPLACE:Pennsylvania
LANGUAGE SPOKEN:English
IMMIGRATION YEAR:1887
NATURALIZATION:Naturalized
ABLE TO SPEAK ENGLISH:Yes
OCCUPATION:Gardner
INDUSTRY:Private Family
CLASS OF WORKER:Wage or salary worker
EMPLOYMENT:Yes
NEIGHBORS:View others on page
HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS:
NAMEAGE
Frederick W Duncombe65
Julia Duncombe63

• City Directory: Tacoma, 1931, Tacoma, Pierce County, Washington, United States of America. Frederick W Duncombe in the U.S. City Directories, 1821-1989

Source Information
Ancestry.com. U.S. City Directories, 1821-1989 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011.

NAME:Frederick W Duncombe
GENDER:Male
RESIDENCE YEAR:1931
STREET ADDRESS:616 S 15th
RESIDENCE PLACE:Tacoma, Washington, USA
OCCUPATION:Gardener
SPOUSE:Julia Duncombe
PUBLICATION TITLE:Tacoma, Washington, City Directory, 1931

• City Directory: 616 S 15th, 1933, Tscoma, Pierce County, Washington, United Atates of America. Source Information
Ancestry.com. U.S. City Directories, 1821-1989 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011.

Frederick W Duncombe in the U.S. City Directories, 1821-1989

NAME:Frederick W Duncombe
GENDER:Male
RESIDENCE YEAR:1933
STREET ADDRESS:616 S 15th
RESIDENCE PLACE:Tacoma, Washington, USA
OCCUPATION:Horticulturist
SPOUSE:Julia Duncombe
PUBLICATION TITLE:Tacoma, Washington, City Directory, 1933

• City Directory: Tacoma, 1935, Tacoma, Pierce County, Washington, United States of America. Frederick W Duncombe in the U.S. City Directories, 1821-1989

Source Information
Ancestry.com. U.S. City Directories, 1821-1989 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011.

NAME:Frederick W Duncombe
GENDER:Male
RESIDENCE YEAR:1935
STREET ADDRESS:401 N Tacoma
RESIDENCE PLACE:Tacoma, Washington, USA
SPOUSE:Julia Duncombe
PUBLICATION TITLE:Tacoma, Washington, City Directory, 1935

• City Directory: 410 No E, 1936, Tacoma, Pierce County, Washington, United States of America. Fred W Duncombe in the U.S. City Directories, 1821-1989

Source Information
Ancestry.com. U.S. City Directories, 1821-1989 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011.

NAME:Fred W Duncombe
GENDER:Male
RESIDENCE YEAR:1936
STREET ADDRESS:410 No E
RESIDENCE PLACE:Tacoma, Washington, USA
SPOUSE:Julia Duncombe
PUBLICATION TITLE:Tacoma, Washington, City Directory, 1936

• Census, 1940, Puyallup, Pierce County, Washington, United States of America. Fred W Duncombe in the 1940 United States Federal Census

Source Citation
Year: 1940; Census Place: Puyallup, Pierce, Washington; Roll: T627_4356; Page: 4A; Enumeration District: 27-83

NAME:Fred W Duncombe
AGE:76
ESTIMATED BIRTH YEAR:abt 1864
GENDER:Male
RACE:White
BIRTHPLACE:Canada English
MARITAL STATUS:Widowed
RELATION TO HEAD OF HOUSE:Father
HOME IN 1940:Puyallup, Pierce, Washington
MAP OF HOME IN 1940:View Map
STREET:Tomlinson
HOUSE NUMBER:347
INFERRED RESIDENCE IN 1935:Tacoma, Pierce, Washington
RESIDENCE IN 1935:Tacoma, Pierce, Washington
RESIDENT ON FARM IN 1935:No
CITIZENSHIP:Naturalized
SHEET NUMBER:4A
ATTENDED SCHOOL OR COLLEGE:No
HIGHEST GRADE COMPLETED:Elementary school, 3rd grade
NEIGHBORS:View others on page
HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS:
NAMEAGE
Lorne Duncombe49
Fred W Duncombe76

• Death Records, 1 Feb 1953, Puyallup, Pierce County, Washington, United States of America. Fredrick W Duncombe in the Washington, Deaths, 1883-1960

Source Information
Ancestry.com. Washington, Deaths, 1883-1960 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2008.

NAME:Fredrick W Duncombe
GENDER:Male
BIRTH DATE:abt 1865
DEATH DATE:1 Feb 1953
AGE AT DEATH:88
DEATH LOCATION:Puyallup, Pierce, Washington
FATHER:William G Duncombe
MOTHER:Fannie Hill
RECORD SOURCE:Washington State Death Records

• Obituary. Frederick W Duncombe in the Web: Tacoma, Washington, Obituary Index, 1939-2010

Source Information
Ancestry.com. Web: Tacoma, Washington, Obituary Index, 1939-2010 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011.
Original data: Tacoma Area Obituaries Database. Tacoma Public Library. http://search.tacomapubliclibrary.org/obits/: accessed March 2010.

• death Index, 1 Feb 1953, Pierce County, Washington, United States of America. Fredrick W Duncombe in the Washington Death Index, 1940-1996

Source Information
Ancestry.com. Washington Death Index, 1940-1996 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2002.

DATE OF DEATH:1 Feb 1953
PLACE OF DEATH:Pierce
AGE:88
ESTIMATED BIRTH YEAR:abt 1865
GENDER:Male
CERTIFICATE:3151

Frederick married Julia Mabee [71] [L44Q-68M] [MRIN: 24], daughter of Simeon Mabee [78] [LJG5-CLK] and Ruth Rebecca Phillips [79] [KNXX-F8S], on 14 Dec 1887 in Dereham Township, Oxford County, Ontario, Canada ⁴⁶.^,47 (Julia Mabee [71] [L44Q-68M] was born on 19 Feb 1867 in Dereham Township, Oxford County, Ontario, Canada ^32,39,50 and died on 7 Aug 1939 in Hospital In Tacoma, Pierce County, Washington, USA ^5,50.)

  Marriage Notes:

Have their original marriage license